
Dan brings the founder’s view on growth, AI and ad tech, from the boldest bets in the industry to the hard calls behind them.
The Z2A Digital podcast. Dan Shabtay and Justine Lortal break down the companies, AI shifts and ad tech trends reshaping how brands grow, one founder story at a time.

How Kalanick went from ghost kitchens to Atoms, why he flipped Uber’s asset-light playbook, and when founders should choose control over speed.
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How creators turn trust into products, sales and billion-dollar exits, and how businesses earn it when AI content is everywhere.
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How to build a sustainable AI workflow instead of chasing every new release, and why thinking like a human with superpowers wins.
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Two failed apps, a brutal stock crash and the bold buyback that turned AppLovin into one of mobile advertising’s biggest players.
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Why ads inside AI models could level the playing field for small and big brands, and how to prepare for Answer Engine Optimization.
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Dan brings the founder’s view on growth, AI and ad tech, from the boldest bets in the industry to the hard calls behind them.

Justine steers every conversation, asking the questions marketers and founders are actually thinking about.
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